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SIEG

- 3 phase steppers

- Friends CNC

- a router

- Cross table

CNC

Why CNC ?

A CNC machine gives the ability to mill curves and contours . As a matter of fact you can join your art to the computer and he translates it in G-codes. 

Project 1 The Sieg conversion.

We welcome the Sieg X2.

Description

The Sieg mini mill is sold in Holland as Black & Red . The same machine is sold as Grizzly,  Homier, Micromark ,  Alpha, Bernardo. The Sieg X2 has a little brother X1 and a bigger one the X3 and X3 super 

Don't expect a miracle of this mini mill. It is really small with a travel of XY 200 x 100 mm. The stability is sufficient for model makers in light metal. But it has no cast iron mass and milling steel and inox are no proper options. 

The spindle is not hardened and the bearings are simple ones. Worth mentioning is the advantage of the MC3 cone in the spindle.

The retrofit of the Sieg

Retrofitting this minimill to CNC is not that easy, because there is little room for ball screw nuts, especially in X- axis. A little more space can be made by milling out the saddle.
Besides, high spending on the issue of ball screws is not proportional to the basic price of the machine. 
So, cheap rolled trapezium thread 16 x 4 mm combined with PETP or POM nuts were applied. 

I. First steps

Backlash in leadscrews is a leading issue. How to get a suitable nut? Machining such small nuts in the conventional lathe is a hard job.  The only way is to make a tap.

Trapezium  comes in cheap meters and I took 35 centimeters for the tap.
My idea was to make a long cone. The core diameter of 16 x 4 is about 11 mm and from there to 16 mm with a top slide angle of about 1 degree, a flow is made from 150 mm. If you want to copy it,  don't use widia, but HSS cutters at slow speed in taking the fragile spindle off.
After that, 3 flutes were ground with a normal thin disc in the mill. The cutting edge is 84 degrees.
Believe me, the thing is sharp after  finishing  with a fine stone and making a nut in polymer is quite easy. Don't make narrow flutes, the plactic must go away.

Moving on

Looking forward, I knew that the mini mill has to be sold one day. After this project comes another one with a larger machine. So, all mods must have to be reversible by opportunity to bring the Sieg back to its conventional state. Keeping this in mind, no redundant  holes and changes to the original X25 were allowed.

The original X-axis had two thrust bearings separated by a land in the bearing house on the right side. This was maintained including the hand wheel. The stepper motor with a coupler house and a single ball bearing was mounted on the left side.

The Z-axis was placed outside the column and mounted with a single ball bearing on top and a double thrust and ball downside. To avoid wring, the attachment of the  nut can be fine-tuned  in all directions, by bolts in the angle construction on the milling head. 

As to couplers, there is a broad range of alternatives that can be sold and also can be made.  My empty pocket urged me to make my own couplers. I copied  the characteristic features of Oldham® couplers and redesigned them to "Newham Couplings".  For a rapid and accurate production  a collet chuck was made. The Sieg got "Big Newhams". Later on I designed "Little Newhams"

The Stepper motors

The slides of the mill will act slightly when they are running free. At work it will be another thing. There are no calculations to make for the power of the steppers. So I searched the internet for experience with the Sieg. Most commonly used are steppers of 200- 300 oz-in. I took 2Nm bipolar and that is converted  280 oz-inch. Two 1 Nm steppers for X&Y  deserved my practice for the first experience.
Well folks, it won't work. You surely need 280 oz- in. 

may 3rd 2005 
The Drivers

The well known Thorsten Ostermann www.ostermann-net.de designed 4 Amp drivers and a break out board. I chose these for my  2 Nm steppers, and they are performing quit well. My connection in Holland for these is www.damencnc.nl

Evaluation

Until  march 2006, the Sieg is mainly used as engraving machine.However, the spindle speed of max 2500 rev/min is not sufficient for this purpose. The Sieg will get another mission. Its accuracy makes it more suitable for milling small parts in 2,5D. 
I enjoyed the first steps with this low budget CNC. 

march 18th 2006

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The magic of 3 phase steppers, 

New drivers have been made for the KT60KM06 3 phase steppermotors from Japan Servo. The steppers possess only 3 wires and are three phase with a star coil configuration. Specifications and (dis)advantages will be  published here soon. A driver is based on the HA13532 and the bridge SLA6023. A new router has three of these motors and I think that I am the first to get such in hobbycnc land. 

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These motors are salvaged from copiers. The difference between the commonly used 2 phase steppers is not quite obvious for my application. The specs of the manufacturer speak of more torque at higher speed. My statement is only, that they are working with the apparant low holding torque of 0,5 Nm and in half step highly accurate with 1200 steps/rev. 

The set up of the measurement of the torque  and the trial for inductive sensors as shown below.

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 Z AXIS

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The Sieg becomes an adult, the color is RAL3003

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Project 2 A Router 2005

Starting a New Router

This new router was developed in a projectteam. The availability of cheap 3 phase steppers made  the engineering of new electronic drivers necessary. That  is beyond my comprehension, and in exchange of chip sweeping services, I got the support of a professional on this issue. The knowledge about the software was added by another companion so, I could concentrate on mechanics and draft.

This router was a platform of exercise for all aspects of building and design, managing budget and cooperation between the participants.

First steps

We started thinking of a workspace of about 250 x 300 mm  with a Z of 160 mm and possibly more. 

Strategic:  Most routers are moving gantry ones and have a fixed table. 
However, for the small workspace in this case a moving table is suitable. So there is a steady bridge.

First points of departure were creating stability, avoidance of backlash and smooth operation. That lead of itself to the first item : the saddle. It is the most complex thing in the router and a crucial part of the whole.  Stability means mass of metal and a competent dimension. And the dimensions of the saddle have consequenses for the rest.

Second was the workspace. What is our goal? Really make it productive or is it a matter of learning? The last thing was most important: the machine should have certain capabilities, but is actually testing area for components. So the workspace was subordinate.

Third, but not at last, the router might not ask big spendings: the whole thing must be made from scrap as available.  

This circumstances lead to a process of sequential draft: 

-  take a suitable handmill
-  fix the Z- axis travel and the altitude of the saddle above the table, create a imaginary"cube"for the objects to be milled on the table. Watch the height of vices etcetera, and the length of milling tools.
-  look at the saddle width
-  what should be the effective way of Y, and take a little oversize
-  dimensions of the frame of the machine
-  determination of the X travel
-  length dimension of the frame
-  tuning in the table dimensions, think about the clamps, bolts and stairblocks 

After that we put down the sketch pencil, and worked it out behind the monitor

 

 

 

 

 

Project 3. The MINIminimill

This project is based on the X1 from Sieg Corporation. The crosstable has 0,5 Nm Japan Servo Nema23 motors. 

 

 

 

 

Project 4 The Lathemasters conversion 2007

Last year I found a crippled lathe in  Buitelaars store in Waddinxveen. Only €350.- and no questions. I never never have any questions... I have plans. :))The conversion has started lately. Changing the X/Y-axis is no problem. The main spindle however, should be a step/ direction controlled axis and not only RPM controlled.

March2007: mechanics are done. I have changed to electronics. 

 

 

 

Yet Another anti Backlash Solution

Yabs! This concept is very simple and the solution is acting alike a collet chuck. The 40 mm long POM nuts are incised over three  quarters of their length with 1, 2 or 3 kerfs. The 2, 3 or 4 members are kept on their free end by an O-ring with an adequate tension enclosing the thread. Thus a dynamic fill of the trapezium thread will be achieved. Several pilots learned, that with the right dimensions of the screw, nut and O-ring, major forces can be transferred. There are truly two nuts: a static and a dynamic one. I'm looking for the right dimensions yet. And a first trial with an pneumatic YABS! is almost finished. Anyway, the kick is to save much money on ball screws. They are open source, so go ahead!

The First and only Cross Table with YABS! in the world.
This is the first attempt to get a full functional mill at a rock bottom price. Black & Red has upgraded the X1 minimill with a larger table and the former tables are selling off. The base of the table has an extension for the column. From there fantasy must take over.

The first table is equiped with common Nema 23 |Japan Servo's of 0.5 Nm. Two others will get the 3 phase 60 x60 mm Japan Servo's with high resolution 1200 steps/rev in half step. It seems that these motors are more powerfull than expected, anyway they have an 8 mm shaft. 

Friends CNC's

- My friend Joop started with a small cross table, Nema 17 steppers and Linistepper controllers. His zealous mind brought him not only to use Ostermann drivers, but he has now an integrated and for each motordriver seperated supply unit, a standalone unit for VCC 5 volt and a main motor driver. M-codes are now in use. By the way, Joop used YABS!of course.

It looks very nice. It's all in a 19" rack. What should be his next step?

  

- My friend Rinus took the same table as Joop did, but changed it his own way with Sanyo Nema23 StepSyns. Rinus had only a file, a hacksaw and handtools, but old fashioned excellent craftsmanship. The logic drivers were mount on a universal board and the bridge drivers were taken from a copier print by using a fret saw. 

Rinus deserves to be honoured for his patience and staying power.

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abacklash2.jpg (35606 bytes)  Old and replacement YABS

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backlashmoer2.jpg (47048 bytes)   YABS in different forms
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Joop's CNC

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Rinus' CNC
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A power unit

3 microstepdrivers 3 amp phase current are in use for 2 mills

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